At the last ECML PKDD community meeting, some of us encountered that for the next years, no woman will be part of the steering committee and, at the same time, the steering committee has become more powerful than the community meeting.
Why is this a problem?
How can this problem be solved?
My idea is that women are just less eager to gain more and more power
than men are (there are exceptions in both sides). I do not think it is
a drawback, it’s just (for me) a fact. For example, If I am reviewing
for 2 or 3 conferences plus 2 journals in a year, I will decline an
invitation to become a member of a journal board just because it’s it
too much work for me to do it properly.
Most of my male colleagues accept one thing after another without even
considering the work load but just considering the increase of
visibility and power. And it is a vicious (or virtuous depending on the
position) circle: the more you accept, the more you are asked. …
I really think that a scientifically good woman who wants to get
involved in everything can do it (at least for ECML/PKDD) as a man can.
She just has to start organizing tutorial, workshops, talking to people
exactly as men do. But, in my opinion, most of the time they just do not
There is one of such group (Women in Computer Science) also in Italy and we have this problem: to communicate to
young people the creativity and the beauty of our work and how much we enjoy ourselves
and we obtain results which are important and useful to people – one thing that women
seem to prefer in the choice of their activity.
I also agree with you that role models are important and facilitate the recruitment
of new researchers in the field.
There is something wrong in the PC members selection process as there is not much diversity: nearly the same people are PC members of all major conferences in machine learning all the time. This is not fair and also not good for the reviewing process. How are these people selected? If we propose a list of female scientists, we may risk that only people in the list will be invited and therefore discriminate against female scientists not in the list, unless we ensure that everybody can in principle be included. I see only one way to achieve that, which will more in general enable a fairer selection of PC members. Each conference should have a system where people can subscribe, include their CV and express their interest in being a PC member for a year. Of course, minimum requirement (e.g. regarding publications) could be imposed. The selection of PC members should become a transparent process for the community.
First of all, a collective message saying that the reply to Katharina’s comments in Athens was despising
“The less chair women in 2012 and 2013, the more they’ll want to participate in 2014 and thereafter” at least if it intended to be fun, we are not amused.
Some of you may know the Informatics Europe association:
which is the European association of computer science departments and research laboratories whose mission of the association is to foster the development of quality research and teaching in information and computer sciences.
During one of our conferences
we organized a workshop on gender issues in Computer Science:
Moreover, we have produced a report on the image of the discipline among young people
which addresses some of the points. It was produced in 2008, thus many topics might not be totally up-to-date, but there are also some references to people who have written much more ponderous essays on related topics, including gender.
I add an extra point:
ICT has changed and will change the society, now society will change ICT: this cannot be a matter of only one sex!
I agree that it is important for all of our younger colleagues to feel like they have role models who are in positions of leadership in our community — i.e., steering and program committees. Indeed, I believe that just as it is important to have diversity with respect to research area and country on any PC it is also important to have diversity with respect to gender.
When I was general chair of ICML in 2004, through no intentional slight , Russ and Dale chose a senior PC with zero women. I asked them to put on at least 2 and gave them a list of names to choose from. They felt bad that they had not even noticed!!!
This is an official proposal to the steering committee:
program chairs of the last three years.
Commonly agreed: not just the last representative in the steering c’tee but some engaged woman.